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swirlgirl
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    10/01/09 at 01:28 PM
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Man, those kids are gettin' tall! Anyway, interesting lil' tidbit I found out about Stevanna Jackson, Randy's daughter. As I recall, someone posted a picture of Randy's daughter Stevanna earlier in this thread as evidence of what a half-black-half white Jackson offspring might look like. However, Stevanna is half-persian, not half-white, so she can't really be compared to Mike's kids when considering their biology.  


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    10/01/09 at 02:33 PM
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Regardless of arguments about children, DNA, Wesley Snipes Black and Mulatto Princess Halle Berry Brown, it's always good to see family with family. I feel like throwing a family reunion now. Take some photos. Post em on Mulatto.org. Spark some debating.

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    10/01/09 at 02:37 PM
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There you go, some white African Americans. 


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    10/05/09 at 10:07 AM
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Here's an intriguing thought. If the Jackson kids aren't biologically MJ's, won't they eventually find out once they have to go to the Dr's as adults, because I'd assume they'd be asked about their medical history, and any exam would probably pull that up, because there could be bloodwork. Am I wrong on this? And I also assume the kids have gone to Dr's already, so what's up wth that?   


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    10/05/09 at 10:26 AM
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Here's an intriguing thought. If the Jackson kids aren't biologically MJ's, won't they eventually find out once they have to go to the Dr's as adults, because I'd assume they'd be asked about their medical history, and any exam would probably pull that up, because there could be bloodwork. Am I wrong on this? And I also assume the kids have gone to Dr's already, so what's up wth that?   

That's simple. What do you think would happen if a Doctor came out and told the world one or more of MJ's children were not his biological child? All hell would break loose. MJ wanted children and he has them, regardless if they are biological or not. Those are MJ's kids regardless, the same as if you had a child birthed naturally or adopted one.

Personally I think a lot of people's minds are made up and are in two categories, those are MJ's biological children and those aren't his biological children. I don't think anyone telling anyone else in the other camp otherwise would matter. It would just spark another 50 pages of posts in which both sides strive to prove their views.

I agree with tera. Pics are good enough for me. Don't know how cute they are though. The youngest one has some brows on em.

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    10/05/09 at 12:15 PM
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I agree that they are his kids regardless, but what I was asking was whether the kids will ever find out through discussing their medical history, because at some point that'll have to come up if it hasn't already. By the way, these kids are cute and all, but Blanket needs to get those teeth of his fixed.


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    10/16/09 at 03:17 PM
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Michael Jackson's kids might not be his, biologically.  I really don't know.  But, the younger one looks a little like him, feature-wise.  And, the older two do not look like their fair, White, blue-eyed mother had them with a White person.  Of those things, I am fairly certain.  So, since the topic of this thread is whether or not LOOKS ALONE could exclude them from being his children, I still stand by "No". 

But based on looks AND Michael's history, if you were a betting woman, would you say yes or no?
 
Let's consider the following:
 
1.  Michael became "white."  He claims it's vitiligo, but vitiligo occurs in spots that eventually cover the whole skin (and the color of the spot doesn't change - that's the color that the person will become).  MJ was darskinned in 1984, lightskinned in 1985, and white in 1986.  But forget those details - the important thing is, he became "white" in 1986.
 
3.  All THREE of his children are "white."
 
Don't you think that all of this is just a wee bit too coincidental?
 
By the way, here's why the use of Quincy Jones' daughter was a bad example.  


Quincy Jones III (whose mother was Swedish, by the way).
 
And as you can see here, not all of Quincy Jones children are "white."
 
Sorry man, there's far too many signs pointing to Michael wanting to be white, and attempting to live vicariously through "his" children.
 
How about this - Randy Jackson's daughter, Steveanna - a mulatta:
 

 
Man, out of all of the siblings (FULL siblings, I might add), why is Michael the ONLY one who is able to make white looking children - ALL of them, no less?
 
I mean, I know that Other and Blaq have a policy of never assuming anything, but DAYUM, sometimes you just can't help but notice when something just ain't right.

I totally agree and thank you for adding to the other side of the argument. 
 
BTW, that's the first time I've ever seen a pic of one of Randy's kids.   She looks Mulatta and she also looks very much like her dad.


this is steveana's mother not WHITE she's middle eastern so your point is stupid. do some research before you open your mouth




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    10/16/09 at 04:01 PM
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Ok, now I don't know for sure what to think about his skin condition.

20/20 had a special on Michael Jackson tonight, and the plastic surgeon they interviewed said she thinks Michael Jackson bleached his skin. She said she did not think he had vitiligo, and if he did it was the most curious case she ever saw.

She went on further to say, it was clear that Michael Jackson was attempting to look more and more Caucasian with the greater number of plastic surgeries he had on his face.

They showed clips of him telling Oprah Winfrey and others that interviewed him, that he had no more then two operations on his face, both being on his nose (one because he broke his nose, and the other so he could breathe better). He was not being honest about the number of surgeries.

The Debbie Rowe chick he apparently met at his dermatologist's clinic where she worked as a nurse. She's white. Lisa Maria Presley is white. He tried to look more and more white with ever more surgeries. And his kids are all white. This would make a real nigga pause, and wonder.

In the end a nigga can only guess or speculate. It's all only worth gossip anyways, as the only people really effected are those involved.



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Plastic Surgeon Dissects Jackson's Face
From childhood to teen, doctor chronicles Michael Jackson's cosmetic evolution.



Michaels autospy report confirms once and for all that he had he had vitiligo. Fuck that paid off  hollywood plastic surgeon who never even met michael. the coroner actually saw his skin. 

the skin bleaching bullshit needs to die and so do the rumors that he was "sterile"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091001/ap_on_re_us/us_michael_jackson_autopsy

AP Exclusive: Autopsy shocker: Jackson was healthy

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's arms were covered with punctures, his face and neck were scarred and he had tattooed eyebrows and lips, but he wasn't the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids, according to his autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press.

In fact, the Los Angeles County coroner's report shows Jackson was a fairly healthy 50-year-old before he died of an overdose. His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. His heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup. And his kidneys and most other major organs were normal.

Still, Jackson had health issues: arthritis in the lower spine and some fingers, and mild plaque buildup in his leg arteries. Most serious was his lungs, which the autopsy report said were chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath.

However, according to the document, the lung condition was not serious enough to be a direct or contributing cause of death.

"His overall health was fine," said Dr. Zeev Kain, chairman of the anesthesiology department at the University of California, Irvine, who reviewed a copy of the autopsy report for the AP. "The results are within normal limits."

Kain was not involved in the autopsy. The full autopsy report has not been released publicly, but the AP obtained a copy.

Jackson died at his rented Los Angeles mansion June 25 after his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered the anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, court documents state. Propofol, normally a surgical anesthetic used in operating rooms, acts as a respiratory depressant and requires constant monitoring,

Murray told police he left the room to use the bathroom and phone records show he also made calls for 47 minutes around the time Jackson encountered problems. When Murray realized Jackson was unresponsive, he began frantic efforts to revive him, but Jackson never regained consciousness and was declared dead at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center.

The coroner's office announced last month that Jackson's death was a homicide caused by "acute propofol intoxication," with the other sedatives listed as a contributing factor. They said the standard of care for administering propofol was not met and the recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation was missing.

Murray is the target of what Los Angeles police term a manslaughter investigation. The decision on criminal charges will come from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. Murray has been interviewed twice by police.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death, and his lawyer Edward Chernoff did not immediately respond to requests for comment Thursday. In the video, Murray said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail." Chernoff previously has said nothing Murray gave Jackson "should have" killed him.

Jackson was declared dead a little more than two hours after paramedics were called. Evidence of the desperate struggle to save the star was evident on his body. He had chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR, and a mechanical device known as a balloon pump was inserted into his heart to try to restart it, according to the autopsy report.

Jackson's body was taken by helicopter to the coroner's office where the following morning Chief Medical Examiner Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran and Dr. Christopher Rogers carried out an extensive review and ordered a toxicology screening to look for drugs in his system.

Aside from propofol and the sedatives, the only substances found in his system were the local anesthetic, Lidocaine, sometimes used to numb injection sites and ephedrine, a commonly used resuscitation stimulant.

No other drugs — legal or otherwise — were detected, nor was any alcohol.

Kain said he was surprised that three other sedatives, known as benzodiazepines, were present with propofol. Anesthesiologists sometimes mix one "benzo" with propofol to help put a patient under, but using three increases the danger for the patient.

"People don't mix the benzodiazepines together because they interact with each other and increase the risk of respiratory arrest," Kain said, adding it was likely Jackson first stopped breathing and then suffered cardiac arrest.

The autopsy findings cut off a potential defense for Murray — that Jackson hid serious pre-existing conditions that increased the risk of death from the drugs he willingly took. Even if he did hide a condition such as his weakened lungs, a prosecutor could argue Murray should have detected the condition before administering drugs, said Michael Brennan, a clinical law professor at the University of Southern California who specializes in criminal defense.

"A doctor has some obligation to know what his patient's physical condition is," Brennan said. "The doctor is going to try to substantiate whatever the patient told him ... and not simply rely on a patient's descriptions of his physical condition."

At the time of his death Jackson was preparing for a series of comeback concerts in London. Rehearsals were rigorous and there were questions about whether Jackson would be physically able to hold up.

But aside from his lungs, the autopsy report did not identify any serious physical problems that might have limited Jackson's ability to perform. It also provided details about his physical state from head to toes.

He had a 3/4-inch scar behind his left ear and another apparent scar behind his right ear. He had a scar beside each of his nostrils and another, 4-inch scar on his right shoulder. He had a pair of additional scars about 3-inches long at the base of his neck and smaller scars on his arms and wrist. He also had a small scar near his navel and a 2-inch scar on the right-hand side of his abdomen.

Kain said most of the scars appeared to be from plastic surgery though others, like a scar on the knee, could have been from a medical procedure.

The medical examiner found numerous punctures on both arms and on a knee and ankle. The leg punctures could have been from intravenous therapies not described in the autopsy report, Kain said.

Jackson had several tattoos, all them cosmetic, including dark tattoos in the areas of both eyebrows and under his eyes, and a pink tattoo around his lips.

He was going bald at the front of his head, with his remaining hair described as short and tightly curled. The bald part of his scalp was darkened with what appeared to be a tattoo stretching across the top of his head from ear to ear.

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm.




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    10/16/09 at 04:28 PM
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Well Blanket looks like Michael. Prince I is beginning to look like Michael, I'm not sure about him. Paris looks like Debbie Rowe and she looks pure White. If they are Michael's biological children, then as they grow older you will start to see the African American in them.


Paris looks pure white?  No she doesn't...

Exactly!   Paris doesn't look pure White.   Her older brother Prince looks more White than she does and he doesn't look pure White either.   Prince and Paris have some mix in them of something, neighter is pure White.   And of course Blanket definitely is mixed with something.   It won't surprise me at all if one, two, or all three kids are Michael's.



i noticed paris has always been darker than prince and has curly hair, but she has "white"facial features while prince is lighter has straight hair but has "blacker" facial features like the full lips and wide nose.

each of the kids is balanced out in how "white" they look. i also noticed that prince and blanket look ALOT alike, probably cause they both look like michael.

prince and paris don't look anything alike to me except their debbie rowe chins.
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    10/16/09 at 06:21 PM
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Somebody pass me the shotgun so I can put this post full of 'White' and 'Black' features to rest.

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    11/04/09 at 04:49 PM
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more pictures of the kids and their army of cousins and omer bhatti who's grown butt should have job.











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