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As far as I am concerned natural hair is whatever you want it to be. I don't think anyone on this thread is implying it isn't proffessional. I think that certain businesses want a certain look and it doesn't always include a very kinky afro, (higher upper end jobs). If it was more widely accepted then weave probably would never sell. Women would never get relaxers or use heat styling products to flatten the hair. I think this ladies hair is beautiful below but some business may not want this look to be the first thing a person sees when they walk into a law firm. To me it is proffessional but it can determine whether you get a job. It happens and sometimes it doesn't but to deny it exist would be wrong. Let me know when are first lady wears a fro and doesn't straighten her daughters hair, then I will believe it to the fullest. I work in healthcare and I do notice natural women but 99% of the time their hair is curly wavy and not close to being tightly coiled.
 
But this look may be a little more excepted...
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| | 04/29/09 at 02:26 PM | Reply with quote | #17 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by HmmQuote: As far as I am concerned natural hair is whatever you want it to be. I don't think anyone on this thread is implying it isn't proffessional. Quote: Wear that Afro to your next job interview at the bank or local community college. See what happens. Being a natural this something that I have heard, and I think its just as an excuse because natural doesn't always = Afro, even if the hair in question is very tightly curled. Quote: I think that certain businesses want a certain look and it doesn't always include a very kinky afro, (higher upper end jobs). I agree, BIG HUGE afro's shouldn't be worn to any job because it huge and can be a distraction, but I am talking about hair that is neatly braided into buns or even just pulled back into a bun. I just know of too many black women who have high end jobs and happened to be natural and depending on how you wear your natural hair there isn't any problems.
Quote: If it was more widely accepted then weave probably would never sell. Women would never get relaxers or use heat styling products to flatten the hair. Black women dependence on weave I believe have nothing to do with the work force. Straight hair is the Ideal for all races of women. Most black women depend on the weave because it is no secret that black women have trouble growing our hair. Weave is the easiest way for us to achieve that.
Quote: I think this ladies hair is beautiful below but some business may not want this look to be the first thing a person sees when they walk into a law firm. To me it is professional but it can determine whether you get a job. Most natural women would disagree, the below style are very stylish and beautiful BUT they are NOT appropriate for any job. Natural hair doesn't = just Afro, there is so many styles (appropriate style) that natural women can achieve not just the Afro.
Quote: It happens and sometimes it doesn't but to deny it exist would be wrong. Let me know when are first lady wears a fro and doesn't straighten her daughters hair, then I will believe it to the fullest. Well Malia and Sasha wear very neat braids and twist A LOT. As far as the 1st lady I am sure she is aware that she needs to keep her hair pleasant for the white people but from what I heard she said in a magazine that she is natural also
Quote: I work in healthcare and I do notice natural women but 99% of the time their hair is curly wavy and not close to being tightly coiled. My hubby is an RN and there are several naturals at the hospital That have tightly coiled hair. I think it may be location maybe where I am from its more acceptable to be oneself.
The Obama girls stay in braids and twist, they are only straighten for special occasions.
I am not a woman that is against woman that relax, but I just get a little annoyed when natural women are said to only enjoy the Afro. Natural hair is VERY versatile and healthy. I can straighten, rollerset, wrap, I can mimic any style with my natural hair without any chemical, that's whats so great about natural hair.
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| | 04/29/09 at 02:43 PM | Reply with quote | #18 |
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I plan on loc'ing my hair, just not right now but in the future. My sister works in the city and she says that she sees afros all the time and that things are changing so in the future we may see a whole lot more fros fo sho.
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| | 04/29/09 at 04:09 PM | Reply with quote | #19 |
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I agree with MOONGLOW on this one.
Also, I don't think it is "White" people nowadays who are carrying on this excuse that "Black" people use in why they don't wear their hair natural. Back in the day, yes but nowadays, no.
I've heard too many permed out women talking sh*t about another woman's hair who chooses not to straighten it using chemicals to know this is coming from within as opposed to outside forces.
I have dreads down to my behind and I wear a shirt and tie everyday and have worked in Corporate America for the last 11 years. Most of the "funny looks" I receive for my hairstyle almost always come from other "Black" people, not "White" people. In fact, whenever someone tells me they like my hair at work, it usually comes from a "White" person.
I think "Black" women have it harder when it comes down to how they wear their hair as opposed to women of other ethnicities. They are constantly scrutinized and even ostracized when they do where their hair in it's natural state... especially by "Black" men. We have been fully indoctrinated into thinking our natural hair is ugly, which in turn, makes it difficult for many women to go natural. 
If we start being proud of our hair, like people who rock dreads and braids, then other people will view our natural hair/hairstyles with positive vibes. It starts with "Us" IMO. Peace.
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| | 04/29/09 at 04:33 PM | Reply with quote | #20 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by AfuraWe have been fully indoctrinated into thinking our natural hair is ugly, which in turn, makes it difficult for many women to go natural. If we start being proud of our hair, like people who rock dreads and braids, then other people will view our natural hair/hairstyles with positive vibes. It starts with "Us" IMO. Peace. 
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| | 04/29/09 at 04:53 PM | Reply with quote | #21 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hmm
As far as I am concerned natural hair is whatever you want it to be. I don't think anyone on this thread is implying it isn't proffessional. I think that certain businesses want a certain look and it doesn't always include a very kinky afro, (higher upper end jobs). If it was more widely accepted then weave probably would never sell. Women would never get relaxers or use heat styling products to flatten the hair. I think this ladies hair is beautiful below but some business may not want this look to be the first thing a person sees when they walk into a law firm. To me it is proffessional but it can determine whether you get a job. It happens and sometimes it doesn't but to deny it exist would be wrong. Let me know when are first lady wears a fro and doesn't straighten her daughters hair, then I will believe it to the fullest. I work in healthcare and I do notice natural women but 99% of the time their hair is curly wavy and not close to being tightly coiled.
I'll agree with part of what you said and have to disagree with the other part. I disagree that if businesses didn't care about afrocentric textured hair that weave and perms would never sell. Yes, they would sell because Black people are the biggest anti kinky anti natural hair people you'll find. I can't even begin to tell you how I hear Black folks talking about kinky, nappy, notty ugly hair on a daily basis and how they need to get their "hair done" and get the naps out of it. This is Black folks saying this, not White. I know alot of women and young girls who live by weaves and perms and it has nothing to do with their jobs. In fact I work with a few. I wear my hair natural at work and it has nothing to do with the job, it's the person.
I do agree with you though that some high in jobs are funny about afrocentric textured hair. But what the article stated in the first post that I copied here, was that it's actually illegal for a company to do that. Now I don't work in a high end type of job, so I can't really give you first hand experience on that. If someone here works in one of those high end jobs, maybe they'll tell us how it works at their job. The type of work I do doesn't really matter about my hair texture, just as long as it's washed, neat, and combed. I'm glad I can wear my hair like I want.
As for Michelle Obama and her girls, now yes Michelle is really high end lol she has to wear her hair straight for her husband's position. America ain't ready to see her natural hair. Maybe the next Black president of first lady though it will be more accepted. But Barack and Michelle are the first, so they have to give that Euro/American White type of conservative look or the press would eat them up. As for her girls though, she only seems to have their hair straightened for important events, like the Inaguration. Other than that, alot of times their hair is pulled back in a ponytail, cornrows or locks.Natural hair is what you were born with. Not what you want it to be. Black women change their natural hair everyday because they don't want it to be kinky.
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Quote: Originally Posted by AfuraI agree with MOONGLOW on this one. Also, I don't think it is "White" people nowadays who are carrying on this excuse that "Black" people use in why they don't wear their hair natural. Back in the day, yes but nowadays, no. I've heard too many permed out women talking sh*t about another woman's hair who chooses not to straighten it using chemicals to know this is coming from within as opposed to outside forces. I have dreads down to my behind and I wear a shirt and tie everyday and have worked in Corporate America for the last 11 years. Most of the "funny looks" I receive for my hairstyle almost always come from other "Black" people, not "White" people. In fact, whenever someone tells me they like my hair at work, it usually comes from a "White" person. I think "Black" women have it harder when it comes down to how they wear their hair as opposed to women of other ethnicities. They are constantly scrutinized and even ostracized when they do where their hair in it's natural state... especially by "Black" men. We have been fully indoctrinated into thinking our natural hair is ugly, which in turn, makes it difficult for many women to go natural. If we start being proud of our hair, like people who rock dreads and braids, then other people will view our natural hair/hairstyles with positive vibes. It starts with "Us" IMO. Peace.
Black people are the worst when it comes to putting down our natural hair. I hear it everyday. When you try to say something positive about it, they quickly talk you down and make it all negative. This one young girl at work does it all the time. Always talking negatively about kinky hair. And what makes it worst, she does it in front of White people.
Alot of times we are our own worst enemy.
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| | 04/29/09 at 06:50 PM | Reply with quote | #23 |
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Good point Afura. It isn't too bad and now that I think about it, it usually is black people giving natural haired blacks the hard time. Moonglow you made me think things through and you did make good points. I also do think that some black men don't like natural hair on a women. I definitely going to loc my hair one day. When the hair gets too long how to you shorten it with out screwing up the loc or unraveling it. I have this feeling that my hair will probably grown really long.
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| | 04/29/09 at 08:26 PM | Reply with quote | #24 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by AfuraI agree with MOONGLOW on this one. Also, I don't think it is "White" people nowadays who are carrying on this excuse that "Black" people use in why they don't wear their hair natural. Back in the day, yes but nowadays, no. I've heard too many permed out women talking sh*t about another woman's hair who chooses not to straighten it using chemicals to know this is coming from within as opposed to outside forces. I have dreads down to my behind and I wear a shirt and tie everyday and have worked in Corporate America for the last 11 years. Most of the "funny looks" I receive for my hairstyle almost always come from other "Black" people, not "White" people. In fact, whenever someone tells me they like my hair at work, it usually comes from a "White" person. I think "Black" women have it harder when it comes down to how they wear their hair as opposed to women of other ethnicities. They are constantly scrutinized and even ostracized when they do where their hair in it's natural state... especially by "Black" men. We have been fully indoctrinated into thinking our natural hair is ugly, which in turn, makes it difficult for many women to go natural. If we start being proud of our hair, like people who rock dreads and braids, then other people will view our natural hair/hairstyles with positive vibes. It starts with "Us" IMO. Peace. That big ass Afro on that Elie magazine was hot, though.
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