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Quote: Originally Posted by ShakaQuote: Originally Posted by anthrofreak
Keep in mind that this is MULATTO.ORG. This means that this site caters first to promoting a positive mulatto or mixed black/white identity and a resource for those individuals. However, others are welcome. If you find that bothersome or problematic, you might want to re-consider continued membership. I motion that we incorporate this into the rules, because it has been debated in the past about whether or not the "free speech" part of the forum title warrants whatever contrary views to positive-mulatto identity an individual may have.
Shaka, do you mean that we should make it a rule that members cannot speak against a positive-mulatto identity? If so, I suppose we could mandate that such opinions CAN be discussed in forums that already exist for ODR arguments.  I'd love to know what others think of this. It might not be a bad idea. I doubt people at a forum centered around Black identity or Latino identity would tolerate new members joining simply to tell them how they should and should not identify.
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Quote: Originally Posted by anthrofreakQuote: Originally Posted by ShakaQuote: Originally Posted by anthrofreak
Keep in mind that this is MULATTO.ORG. This means that this site caters first to promoting a positive mulatto or mixed black/white identity and a resource for those individuals. However, others are welcome. If you find that bothersome or problematic, you might want to re-consider continued membership. I motion that we incorporate this into the rules, because it has been debated in the past about whether or not the "free speech" part of the forum title warrants whatever contrary views to positive-mulatto identity an individual may have. I would say that a contrary view is fine, as long as it is debated respectfully, intelligently and is not intended to derail the mission of the site. What is not acceptable is calling mulattos crazy and blanketing them as self halting because they don't identify solely as black.
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Good points. Well, my knee jerk reaction says outlawing it all together is a bit authoritarian on a free speech board. That makes all the sense in the world on the positive board. But what I do say is that there should be room to debate issues surrounding identification. For instance, I have a general problem with perpetuating race as a social construct and the subsequent racial identities, mixed or not. But I also realize this is the world we live in and not the world I'd like it to be, so I define myself using it's vernacular. Would love to see what others think.
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Quote: Originally Posted by anthrofreak
my knee jerk reaction says outlawing it all together is a bit authoritarian on a free speech board.
I agree. Completely. That's why I was saying we could possibly limit arguments against a positive mulatto identity to a certain forum or forums. What I mean is people coming on here and proclaiming that mulattos ought to identify as Black and/or that there is no way a person who is mixed with Black and identifies as mixed/mulatto/biracial/etc. actually loves and respects Black people and their own Blackness.  The tricky part about trying to moderate that sort of inflammatory behavior is that it does not directly attack a member. It is a blanket attack against mulatto-identified people worldwide. But, then again, I can see your POV that this is a personal attack on members and can be enforced as such. It is just a personal attack on multiple members, not just one.
So, do we need a new rule or do we just need to apply rules 1 and 7 to this anti-positive mulatto identity argument? Hmmm. We have applied rules 1 and 7 to other groups being denigrated - Blacks, Whites, etc. I think your warning today was the first time it came up in regard to mulattos.
I, too, would like to know what others think about Shaka's proposal.
Just as a reference...
Quote: Rule #1 – Do not personally attack other members.
You may not ever personally antagonize, attack, or insult another poster, even if they attacked you first. This includes statements which are disguised insults, provocative, or which are intended to be inflammatory. You must always word your statements so as to show clear intention to avoid any accidental antagonism. Do not make assumptions and accusations about another member. If you have suspicions or questions about someone’s motives or point of view, just ask them about it. Assumptions and accusations are completely uncalled for.
Rule #4 – Do not troll the board! (Lurkers are welcome. Trolls are NOT!)
Pushing an agenda, spreading false notions, propagating stereotypes, making generalizations, and overall unnecessary repetition will not be tolerated. Speaking repeatedly on an issue in a thread or threads where that topic is relevant is permissible. However, repeatedly addressing the same issue in multiple unrelated threads is a form of spamming/trolling.
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Who will set the standard for what is positive?? A thread like " Mulattoes are the most attractive people " may seem positive to some and negative to others.. Also since a positive mulatto outlook entails people accepting both their black and white side, does that mean when people bash black or whites they are not keeping a positive mulatto outlook....will they be banned??
I think there are too many variables and the boards should be left as is
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iceymom2be
does that mean when people bash black or whites they are not keeping a positive mulatto outlook....will they be banned??
People have already received warnings for such behavior and, yes, one was banned for repeatedly bashing Blacks in spite of warnings. The rules already protect members from being attacked. I think that what is new about Shaka's proposal is that there would be protection for mulatto identity.
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Quote: Originally Posted by OTHERShaka, do you mean that we should make it a rule that members cannot speak against a positive-mulatto identity? If so, I suppose we could mandate that such opinions CAN be discussed in forums that already exist for ODR arguments. I'd love to know what others think of this. It might not be a bad idea. I doubt people at a forum centered around Black identity or Latino identity would tolerate new members joining simply to tell them how they should and should not identify.
Mulatto.org mulattoes are striving towards being recognized as such, and allowing new members to come and tell us no is counterproductive. This is a haven for us 1st and foremost and promoting a positive multiracial identity should be our main objective. If anyone considers that limiting "free" speech, then I'll disagree with an example.
The repulicans and democrats each have their basic platform. They may have problems within each respective group, but they're working for common goals. Neither party is going to allow the other to come in and mess with its prerogatives and neither should we.
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Since no other members have voiced any opinion over this proposed rule, the moderators will now decide whether this update is warranted. 
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