Mulatto.org: Debate And Free Speech Board

Micheal Ealy deserves his own thread.

WellOWell — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:18:32 GMT

Yes, I said. Ealy deserves his own thread. He is so fine. His skin color and his eyes just make him look so delicious. I have to admit tho, brown eyes, skin and hair is attractive, think Denzel. It is a tie between the two but back to Ealy he is delicious. Only post Ealy pics in this thread please, thanks! O and those lips look so kissable, nic and full.

Forum: General Celebrities Thread

Difference between mulatto hair and black hair...

Mochaa — Thur, 19 Nov 2009 21:09:21 GMT

Discuss. What seperates mixed, or mulatto hair from any other hair texture in the world? Specifically black...

Yes, I am being rather passive aggressive, so I'll come out and say it. I went to a certain store known for it's plethora of hair products and I had on beanie to cover my obviously not done hair. A woman working there in the isle and I started to talk about hair/products, and I came to find out she was biracial. We had a pleasant convo, but I found this to be a little off-key: "But, you must know how it is though...with hair. All the black people just want to touch it and tell you what good hair you have, and then they try to get you to relax it and crap. Oh, by the way you should try this stuff called Mixed Chicks, it's for our type of hair." Well, of course I told her there was no our because I wasn't biracial.

After she questioned me a bit about it (and I kept telling her "No, both my parents are black..."), the look on her face dropped a little and she said: "Oh, well, if you're just black it might not work for your hair...but who knows, you probably have nice hair." -sigh- Oh people and their ways. That just got me thinking...is there seriously that huge of a difference between mixed hair and black hair? I tend to see an overlap, since I never see mixies with straight or wavy hair, but it's not like its impossible.

Forum: Hair Care

Woman Shows Face After Chimp Attack - GRAPHIC VIDEO

dux321 — Thur, 19 Nov 2009 15:05:48 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMNsS-gueU&feature=response_watch

Forum: General Topics

Weird thing on the Members List

PassingWoman — Thur, 19 Nov 2009 01:17:05 GMT

I often go and look over the memeber's list... who joined first (answer: Shaka), who has the most posts (answer: OTHER), etc.

Normally I notice that people join, two or so per day, and then never post anything. Personally, I think it may be the same sets of people, just logging on to take a looksey....

But here's the odd thing: There haven't been any new members since 11/10/09. It's an inconsistency in the pattern, that I do not see occurring at any other time.

Just odd. Statistically speaking (and yes, I did take stats, and yes, I even liked it!), this is an unexplained anomaly. Like the possibility of no humans being born on one particular day....

~PW

Forum: Rants and Venting

Tax the Wealthy for Health Care!

PassingWoman — Thur, 19 Nov 2009 01:01:34 GMT

Interesting idea, and seems to have some folowers...
(source at bottom)

Although the House bill includes a surtax on the wealthy in order to help fund the proposed health care overhaul, the possibility of it being included in the final health care bill seems uncertain. As Majority Leader Reid prepares the Senate's bill, he ought pay attention to this newly released Associated Press poll which shows that 57% of Americans are in favor of a health surtax on the richest among us -- and only 37% are opposed.

The poll also found that respondents dislike other options that are publicly being discussed on the Hill, such as the so-called "Cadillac plans," that would tax insurers on high-value coverage plans. Higher taxes on insurance providers, pharmaceutical companies, and medical device manufacturers were not as popular either.

The surtax included in the House bill would levy a 5.4% income tax surcharge on individuals earning $500,000 a year and households raking in $1 million.

Yet what is especially interesting -- and promising -- is the fact that the 57% who supported a surtax were responding to a question that referred to a surtax doubly more punitive than the one included in the House bill. The tax scheme described by the AP would start hitting people who have an annual income of $250,000 or more.

The payment scheme which was the least popular among respondents was to borrow money and increase the federal debt, which was supported by only 6% and opposed by 88%. President Obama has vowed not to do so.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/144048/americans_want_a_health_surtax_on_wealthy/

Forum: Politics

Does anyone love cats as much as I do? (Videos)

Lboy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:58:37 GMT

I love these cat videos....

Forum: Humor

The Father Of Michael Jackson Accuser Found Dead.

camimo4u — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:16:38 GMT

The father of Michael Jackson's 1993 molestation accuser committed suicide.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20091117/evan-chandler-father-michael-jackson-molestation-accuser-found-dead.htm

Forum: Current Events

Tea Party Violence

PassingWoman — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:21:57 GMT

Tea Party Protest on Illegal Immigration Turns Violent (Video)

Nov. 17, 2009

Rob Kuznia -- HispanicBusiness.com

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A Tea Party protest against illegal immigration turned violent Saturday in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, when two Tea Party representatives went to confront a group of counter-protesters and were beat up.

One of the Tea Partiers was 62-year-old David Caulkett, a well-known immigration hardliner in Florida who has appeared as a spokesman in the media, such as the show of former CNN host Lou Dobbs.

Saturday's Tea Party protest in Ft. Lauderdale, part of a coordinated nationwide effort, drew a group of about 10 counter-protesters with the Florida Chapter of Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER).

At the busy intersection, they chanted, "Amnesty yes, racists no!"

In the incident, which was captured on video by the Tea Party camp, two camera-wielding Tea Partiers approached the ANSWER people in an effort to capture their signs on video.

One of the counter-protesters responded by whacking a Tea Partier with a sign. The video then pans out to show the other Tea Partier, Caulkett, president of Floridians for Immigration Enforcement, sitting on top of the initial attacker on the street, as cars whizzed past.

Caulkett's Tea Party comrade then came running to his aid, but behind him was a sign-wielding ANSWER protester, who charged at full-tilt. He bashed Caulkett in the head with his sign, and then put Caulkett in the headlock. The two ANSWER protesters continued to wrestle with Caulkett, with one of them giving Caulkett a knee to the face.

Meanwhile, a third, heavy-set ANSWER protester entered the fray, apparently breaking a sign over the other Tea Partier's back and tumbling on top of him, pinning the Tea Partier to the ground.

Caulkett has launched Web sites such as ReportIllegals.com, which encourages citizens to anonymously report detailed information on suspected illegal immigrants to the U.S. government. BusinessWeek reported that he was laid off from his job as a computer technician in 2003. In the article, he is quoted saying, "These people have not contributed to our society."

(Click here to watch him in a debate against representatives from amnesty groups.)

For its part, ANSWER has militant leanings in the other direction. The day before the proest, the group sent out a mass email that seemed to condone violence.

"Racism is like anything else in this world: in order to make it fall, you must smash it! That is why we are calling on all people to come out tomorrow, to organize a militant confrontation with the so-called 'tea baggers.' Beating back these forces will require us to organize together, take the streets, fight the racists wherever they show their faces and drive them out of every community."

Meanwhile, a corresponding Tea Party protest in Phoenix was also disrupted by a brawl between a Tea Partier and a Neo-Nazi who tried to unfurl a banner depicting Hitler.

Forum: Politics

Japanese Emperor Tells Obama to 'Bow Down'

DaTokenBlaqGuy — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:21:53 GMT

Actually, he didn't but the President did bow to the Japanese Emperor which has caused a lot of debate on the internet. Here is the link from MSN.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33978533/ns/politics-white_house/
I could not find anything from Fox or CNN about it. Perhaps someone else can? I did find a lot of comments on the situation including a reminder that the Japanese bombed us in 1941 and therefore must still atone for that crime...even though those who wronged us are probably dead by now. There were other things but children may be reading over your shoulder. So back to Obama's bow. Conservatives call it groveling. Some people are calling it just a sign of respect. Keep in mind the now Emperor was the son of the then Emperor who issued the attack Pearl Harbor. But here's my perspective on the situation.

In Japan it is customary to bow as a sign of respect and also can be used as a greeting. I've bowed, I've been bowed to, people bow. The lower the bow, the bigger the sign of respect, a 90 degree angle being pretty much the creme de la creme. As the Emperor of Japan those who meet him MUST bow especially if they're the ones visiting his palace in Tokyo, Japan...which was what the President was doing. While at your neighbors house abide by thy neighbors rules is my opinion. While in your neighbors country abide by as many rules as you are able and respect their culture and ways. That's how I've lived as my time in the Navy hitting foreign ports of call. Personally? I don't think it's grovelling at all but then again I don't think Obama is Hitler. Not even a little bit. Go check out Hitler's views of the Arayan super human occult and all the fun after the war in America in regards to Nazi America. And you thought the Klan had been bad news. Turner Diaries anyone?

I could not find footage of the Emperor afterwards, if he bowed back in return. I do not even know if it's customary for him to do so. I wouldn't think so with him being Emperor and all. But what I did find was this.

And here is what Bush supposedly thought of the situation.

Apparently there's a state department protocol that the President Bows To No One! I also did not know that showing respecting to other religions, Islam in particular, means you're belittling America. Interesting. I'll have to look for that State Department protocol. If it is correct then I'm afraid Mr. Obama would then be in the wrong.

Forum: Current Events

EXPLAINED TO A "T"... VERY WELL DONE!

camimo4u — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:35:29 GMT

This video is a wonderful video and it explains it very well. If this is not Mulatto related, then I don't know what is... OK!! a joke. We know a lot of topics are not Mulatto related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p03K_UVbzYo

Forum: General Topics

Hi! Not that new, but certainly not old...

NotSoPhotogenic — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:14:13 GMT

Hi everybody! It may be a little late for an Introduction, but I thought I'd try anyway. I'm NotSoPhotogenic (literally, btw), and I'm from Los Angeles, CA, in the United States. My ancestral background is Mexican, which includes Amerindian, European, and African roots. I'm here to promote multiculturalism and multiracialism as well as the African component to Mexican (and by extension, the rest of Latin America's) heritage.

From the experience I've already had with posting on this site, it has been a real pleasure. Peace.

Forum: Introductions

Dominant Features

Esmama — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:52:03 GMT

I've been thinking about this since the convo in another thread about dominant features. Do all races have "dominant" features? Maybe I should know this since I'm white, but are there any dominant "white" features?

I've heard in the past that having a mixed race child as a white person means your child won't look like you. I have to admit I was a little worried about that. But my son DOES look like me. Yet he's obviously mulatto. In my family, what I call our "muffin" cheeks are dominant. When we smile really big, our cheeks puff way out and our eyes almost disappear. Me, my son, my mom, my sisters, my uncle, my grandma, etc. etc. Even my great-great grandpa had them, and a lot of my grandma's first and second cousins have them. But this is not a "white" trait. It's simply a trait within my family.

Forum: General Topics

African Presence in Mexico

PassingWoman — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:22:52 GMT

(NotSo: I thought of you when I saw this!!!! Source at bottom) ~PW

Artistic explorations of Mexico's African roots

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Mario Guzman Oliveres woodcut Gathering of Black Towns is part of the new exhibit The African Presence in Mexico: From Yanga to the Present, on display at the Smithsonian Anacostia Community Museum in Washington.THE WASHINGTON POST

By Philip Kennicott

The Washington Post

November 13, 2009

WASHINGTON Sometimes you have to look out to see in. An exhibition at the Smithsonian's Anacostia Community Museum about Africans in Mexico is not about race in America, or African American identity or what it means to be black in the United States. But by focusing on the particulars of African existence in Mexico, it reveals far more universal wisdom about race and identity than so much of the often rancorous "discussion" of the subject on this side of the border.

"The African Presence in Mexico: From Yanga to the Present" documents the arrival, disappearance and reappearance of African identity in Mexico over the past five centuries, using art from the colonial era, photographs and contemporary crafts, sculpture and imagery. Beginning in the 16th century, when enslaved Africans were brought on the first missions of discovery and conquest, it explores how the Spanish (long familiar with interracial existence given their proximity to Africa) articulated race into categories, including mulatto (half Spanish, half African), mestizo (half Spanish, half native) and 14 other permutations. The Catholic Church kept the records, slotting every newborn into a category that would determine its chances for an education, a career and even the most basic of rights.

After the war of independence from Spain from 1810 to 1821, these categories were suppressed as an unwanted vestige of Spanish colonial rule. The shorthand for ethnic identity recognized skin color, with fairer tones more privileged. Distinctions were still made between native and Spanish-descended identity, but African descent got lost in the mix.

The exhibit's most striking images show what was hiding in plain sight. As Mexico created a new melting-pot identity that assimilated yet denied blackness, artists documented the racial diversity that was officially disappearing. The three figures in a lithograph by Carlos Nebel, a German artist who traveled in Mexico from 1829 to 1834, all "read" black, at least to an outsider. Even two of the country's most prominent leaders during the struggle for independence, Jose Maria Morelos y Pavon and Vicente Guerrero, were of African descent.

And so the exhibition becomes a game: Find the African identity. This puts the viewer in the strange, and sometimes uncomfortable, position of looking for blackness in images of people who would not necessarily consider their African descent of much importance but who would, in this country, be labeled "black."

The exhibition seeks to document a suppression of identity that was, at first, perhaps progressive, but became over time a collective denial of the contributions of African-descended people. By the time you reach the Mexican Revolution (1910-1920), the popular conception of a new Mexican identity had marginalized the African presence.

This creation of a "brown" identity was an ambiguous project. Having African features was not the automatic ticket to poverty and discrimination that it was in most of the United States. But there was a cost: the loss of heritage, history and identity.

Even an idea as seemingly futuristic and idealistic as the "raza cosmica," or cosmic race, was a double-edged sword. This ideology of identity focused Mexican history on an epic encounter between the Old (and European) World, and the New World of indigenous Americans. Introduced by a prominent Mexican educator and politician in 1925, it offered the idea of a superior and emergent race, forged from the many identities that came together in places such as Mexico. It was a strange mix of colorblindness and racialist thinking that, after the dark chapters of the past century of world history, seems painfully ham-fisted.

The exhibition divides into roughly three chapters, beginning with the Spanish years, followed by the 19th- and 20th-century suppression of African identity, and closing with art that explores the recent emergence of a newly configured Afro-Mexican identity. After sorting through photographs made in Guanajuato, curator Cesareo Moreno of the National Museum of Mexican Art assembled a wall of faces, most obviously black. But even Moreno's uncle, who lives near where these standard portraits were made by a photography studio in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, said no black people were near the town.

When researching the exhibition, Moreno says, he was shocked to rediscover the blackness in a striking photograph made during the Mexican Revolution: of a dark-haired woman with full lips. Take her out of her Mexican clothes and put her in the segregated South and she would have been sent to the back of the bus.

But it wasn't until Moreno looked for it that he found her blackness: "Once you start seeing it, it is everywhere."

But would this young woman have defined herself as black? And if she didn't, who are we to "rediscover" it in her?

That leads to the powerful ambiguity of the exhibition's third chapter, devoted to artists who have focused on the newly emerging idea of an Afro-Mexican identity. The black photographer Tony Gleaton has worked extensively in Mexican regions with large African-descended populations, creating haunting images of dark-skinned people. But he wasn't perceived as "black" when he traveled in Mexico.

As a journal he kept in 1988 during his time in Mexico points out, he was also projecting his own ideas about race: "The photographs that I create are as much an effort to define my own life, with its heritage encompassing Africa and Europe, as an endeavor to throw open the discourse on the broader aspects of 'mestizaje,' the 'assimilation' of Asians, Africans, and Europeans with indigenous Americans."

There is an essential difference between finding something and forging something, and the exhibition's third chapter is about the latter.

If blackness seems to peer out of the silence of old images from earlier centuries, it is presented more boldly and sometimes stridently in art made since the slow reawakening of Afro-Mexican identity during the past few decades. The most provocative of the works is a painting commissioned for the exhibition from Arizona painter Alfred Quiroz. His 2005 "Kozmic Race" mobilizes just about every stereotype in the Mexican and American catalogue, from a hook-nosed and glowering conquistador to an African with chains on his arm and a bone through his nose, to a native Mexican, apparently holding human hearts as if fresh from some grisly Aztec ritual. It also references a 1938 lynching in Florida.

It is a strange and lurid assemblage, and an equal-opportunity offender. As art, it is intentionally cartoonish, and as a political statement, it eludes clarity by mobilizing intense and contradictory reactions with no sense of resolution or direction. It leaves one thinking what people south of the border have thought for centuries: Yanqui go home. Quiroz is Mexican American, but his painting feels very American, a projection of a particularly confrontational way of thinking about race and identity into a field, a country, a social entity, where this American habit may offer nothing particularly useful, and possibly much that is destructive.

Quiroz's painting makes one wish that "Afro-Mexican" identity could be studied and observed as if an objective fact. But there is no observing it without importing American and other ideas about race. And just as you're about to dismiss Quiroz's painting, you realize art has always been used to forge ethnic and racial identities. His painting is a part of a centuries-old project.

But is it a good project? Does it need to continue? Is a forgotten or suppressed identity best left dormant? Or is there a way to awaken difference without division, identity without animosity? Like all good exhibitions, "The African Presence in Mexico" raises more questions than it answers. But it goes beyond the merely good by raising provocative and painful questions in a forthright way alien to all too many exhibitions about race today.

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091113/NEWS/911130309/-1/NEWSMAP

Forum: North & Central America

What have you ever seen a light skinned Black person do that really made you say, Wow!

Lboy — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:04 GMT

When I hear people say Black women are only about money, I will always recall this happening. Years ago before I had my calling to God, I use to hook up with the brothers on the weekend and go out. Sometimes we hit the lap dance spots. I recall this one lap dance place where there was a light skinned black girl (Aaliyah looking) who was getting tipped by the brothers. Then some of the white guys were waving money at here to come in their direction. She told me and my partners to keep talking to her. We told her those guys are trying to wave you over. She said that she didn't want a white guy touching her. Huh, this is a lap dance joint and she is putting principles over the almighty dollar? It was $20.00 per lap dance. What happen to the lap dancers code; Keep ya mind on ya money and ya money on ya mind?

That was one of many things I saw a light skinned Black girl do that has always stuck in my mind.

Forum: General Topics

myshoes2.com a Website For White Phenotype Mixed Race People

diane77 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:29:02 GMT

http://www.myshoes2.com

Forum: General Topics